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Why to refuse categorically the vaccine against the flu A / H1N1?

Hi to all Pensif

This ticket is very special…

Not having followed specialized courses in Virology and in Immunology… I cannot to allow me, with basic knowledge, to bring a concrete explanation and a recommendation as for vaccine effectiveness against the Flu A H1N1…

On the other hand, I propose you to share the post that Patricia Guedj wrote on her Windows Live space and that seems me very professional…

It’s very important to construct its opinions and its decisions from different information sources, even contradictories…

Thank you Pati to have lit up all us on the risk to do ourselves to vaccinate against the flu A H1N1… and especially on the secondary effects very far from being negligible…

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Here therefore the post that Patricia Guedj wrote on her space:

That there is… I received!!!! But there, me, I don’t obey…

This vaccine is very dangerous… Really dangerous… This vaccine possesses additives: mercury (thiomersal)… Squalene (risks car diseases autoimmunes as the etrythematous lupus or the sclerosis in veneers) … the allumine (major risk of pathologies…)

This vaccine is only an experimental vaccine… Its effectiveness isn’t proved, and the secondaries effects aren’t again completely establish… of more, the laboratories obtained for this manufacture, a judicial immunity… conclusion: one wants to inject all us shit that could be at the pathology basis engrave, and one don’t can what’s more to return himself judicially towards anybody… You will say me, if one is dead, one cannot more really return himself judicially, or even to return himself all current. …………

Of more, nothing doesn’t allow all us currently to know the exact number of flus A H1N1, In the measure where it’s necessary that there are a board of apocalypse and practically an hospitalization to be able to have the luck to have a serodiagnosis… in city, as soon as someone has some flu symptoms, one decrees that it’s a matter of one H1N1… it’s evident that one will quickly surpass pandemic, and that one will attain under few the epidemics… The problem is that all is only lie shameless…

I REFUSE THIS VACCINE AND I COUNSEL YOU TO DO SIMILAR

I transmit you a link a lot more explicit one than this than I couldn’t say you… look at the videos… they are edifying… Then, you will decide in your soul and conscience if you want to do yourself to vaccinate, and especially if you will do to vaccinate the yours…….. http://web.mac.com/geraldine.feuillien/Videos/FR.html

Of other links again: http://web.mac.com/geraldine.feuillien/Liens/Liens.html

Here, a link on the complete blog: http://web.mac.com/geraldine.feuillien/ah1n1/

Or again: http://www.asanat.org/

For my party, here one of the disobedience case to an order of my superior instances…

I refuse to vaccinate anyone……..

I persist and I sign….

One establishes vaccinations in big number… style order worldwide, when the vaccines aren’t longer at the experimental stage, and especially when they have a confirmed effectiveness… This isn’t the case here far of there. ……….

Patricia Isabelle Guedj

The general Direction of health (DGS) calls October 30, the professionals of health of the ambulatory sector to do itself to vaccinate against the flu A/H1N1, in the health establishments SAMU seat or having access to a dedicated consultation "flu". A motivated call, according to the DGS, by an intensification of the flu epidemic.

"The doctors and liberal nurses of the ambulatory sector belong to a priority group that is invited to do itself to vaccinate from November 12 next one (official date of opening of the centre vaccination)."


Here the continuation of my
opinion after the left commentaries on the French version of this post

Considering my study journey in Science, this would be cowardly on my part of not to warn each of you to my turn … I wouldn’t like to
say me one day:  "me, at least, I
knew the risk of this vaccine and not the others" …

 

Before posting this post I verified the links, I
looked contradictores news to this post on the web then I returned in my
university books: 

*  The specialized books in the Biological and
Biochemical Analysis,

*  The specialized books in Microbiology,

*  The specialized books in Qualities Insurances,

*  As well as my books of Medicine in Human Physiology

But I reassure you, I’m not doctor or nurse; even if I
followed these study journeys, I have only the level of Bachelor in Microbiology…I
haven’t therefore any sufficient competence to bring a concrete and
professional explanation on this subject…

 

On the other hand, I learned to analyze data for some
to bring conclusions while leaning me on scientifically and objectively
establish facts …

And this is only after all this research that I chose
to post the write of
Pati… accessible to the comprehension of all…

 

Now, I wouldn’t lose any more my time, this not
interesting information anything… unless this subject to censorship limit
disturbs too… to the point of not to want there to participate…

 

Although it’s some, I tell you only one thing: look at this video and
put you a minimum questions before taking the decision to do you to vaccinate
or not:

Pensif Which are the profits and especially the risks to do it
to vaccinate? … 

Pensif Which are contained exactly this vaccine, additives
and/or all others composed include? … 

Pensif What is a pandemic on the scientific plan? …

Pensif What do you think about the judicial immunity obtained
by the pharmaceutical laboratories? …

Pensif Why these laboratories don’t furnish any results of
works in toxicology concerning the profits and risks these vaccines? …

Pensif Which is the reliability of this campaign of
vaccination? … 

H1N1, Vaccines & You: Toxic
Ingredients & how to Protect you & your family from the Flu

                                               

ÉtoileÉtoileÉtoile

I would want to signal that I’m not
against vaccinations… I’m just against this special campaign of vaccination
that I consider scientifically unfounded, on-mediate
, politically
been founded and doubtful…

When I was in 2nd year of DUT of
Biological and Biochemical Analysis, the year where we learn on the practices
plan our future profession of laboratory technician, we had brought to work on
the identification… of different microorganism’s stumps, among others,
bacterial stumps, such as Salmonella typhimurium…

In this precise case, the
probability that I contract typhoid was well superior to the secondary eventual
effect risks relating to vaccination… which wants to say, what I had done
myself vaccinated against this bacteria…

Before all medication, vaccination…
we must always calculate the profit – risks, knowing that the risks (secondary
effects…) are always superior to the profits… It’s therefore necessary to
evaluate all actions that should aim to improve our health or to protect it…


Then to  all, I ask you, that a single and unique
thing: before taking the decision to do you to vaccinate or not, read all what
is said on the web and look at the videos relating to the vaccination campaign
against the flu virus A/H1N1… If persons as Pati, warn us on the dangerousness
to do itself to vaccinate, they do it for the love that they seen to the
HUMANITY… Pati takes on her time to warn us… while you be in agreement or not
with Pati, I ask you of well to read all the documents and to look at the
videos that we share in our Windows Live spaces…

I tried to be the more objectifies
possible, facing this vaccination campaign… I grouped together documents in
favor of vaccination, documents that contraindicate the vaccination against the
flu A/H1N1… as well as more educational documents… don’t forget to ask you
essential questions before deciding to vaccinate…

It’s true that I repeat myself, but
to the view of the propaganda extent of this vaccination campaign, I prefer to
continue to inform you, from that time that I find documents, more scientific,
that could help us to take the most just decision…

http://cid-5b2ddab1c28fcdbd.skydrive.live.com/browse.aspx/Grippe%20-%20Flu%20Virus


Even if I repeat again, don’t forget
to ask questions:
In this vaccination campaign, several zones of shadows oblige us to reject
adamantly this vaccination, which that it be:
1) The pharmaceutical industries obtain the judicial immunity… Why? …
2) Recognized very toxic additives are added for the vaccination in mass…
3) Vaccines without additives exist for a targeted population;
4) Media that announce figures of pandemic to variable stupid rates…
5) Confirmed scientists that warn…
6) Leaders that would wish to impose…


Here some
useful links before taking the decision therefore to vaccinate or not:

Why is Influenza A Virus Subtyping Important? By American Society for Microbiology

Facts about 2009 H1N1 Influenza by ECOLAB

H1N1 Vaccine and Thimerosal: To Vaccinate or Not to Vaccinate?

A(H1N1)-AS03 Pandemic Vaccine of GSK   –   A(H1N1)-MF59 Pandemic Vaccine of Novartis   –    Vaccination campaign in CH

H1N1 influenza vaccine by Health Protection Agency

Guillain-Barre and vaccination

History of medicine – Vaccination

A Short History of Vaccine Panic

Pandemic influenza vaccine manufacturing process and timeline by the World Health Organization

Stumbles in the race to make H1N1 vaccine – Production glitches delay tests of local flu jabs – Bangkok Post

Surgical masks versus respirators for flu protection   –   AGORAVOX, The Citizen Media

I want to warm against the madness surrounding the influenza A / H1N1 by Jean-Jacques Crèvecoeur

Principles of Vaccination – Part 1

Principles of Vaccination – Part 2  –  Do Vaccines Really Protect?

Playing Grandmaster chess with swine flu  –  AGORAVOX, The Citizen Media


Why categorically refuse the swine flu vaccine ? Look at these VIDEOS just for information

Swine flu parties: I doubt anyone is that dumb, but I’ve been surprised before  –  AGORAVOX, The Citizen Media

"CDC is again warning parents
not to send your children to a swine flu party. The idea is to provide
them with immunity, like used to be done with chickenpox parties. It’s
pretty hard to believe this is a live issue and CDC admits it doesn’t
have evidence that any have actually occurred. When it came up in the
spring, during the first wave of H1N1,
we and all other flu experts said it was a very bad idea,
but at least one could understand the reasoning then…"


Aluminum in vaccines increases thimerosal’s toxicity  by VACTRUTH

Vaccine May Be More Dangerous Than Swine Flu by Dr. Russell Blaylock

Here a file in which you can find the response to several of your questions or doubt:

Grippe – Flu Virus

Guillain-Barre´ Syndrome 

Toxicity of vaccine

AmpouleAmpouleAmpouleTo all, I tell you to read this document that I
transformed in pdf file for it to return more pleasant to the reading…

about the secret hide of the Flu A H1N1 by Stephen Lendman

This document is very serious and each of us has the
right to be to inform of certain dealings, among others, the dealings of the
pharmaceutical laboratories, such as Baxter and all the others, those in charge
of to produce and/or to market these different vaccines, very strongly
doubtful…

I you counsel to read this document…

It’s a document writes by Stephen Lendman in November
11 2009 and that Ruby added in commentary in our discussion group:
http://thelighthouseapostolicgr.groups.live.com/discussions/discussion.aspx?id=cns!97BBB5069E1A5!2604

Catégories :Health
  1. Loun
    7 novembre 2009 à 19 h 01 min

    saluteffectivement les adjuvants sont plus dangereux que le virus lui meme, à la limite et ils s’attendent à des sacrés effets secondaires, tel la multiplicatyion du syndrome de guillain barré, etc etc etc.C’est une expérimentation en live à l’échelle mondiale ce vaccin !Il y a deux sortes de vaccins, l’un avec peu de virus "désactivé" et beaucoup d’adjuvants et l’autre avec davantage de souche de virus "désactivés" ! celui réservé à la population est celui qui a beaucoup d’adjuvants.

  2. Valerie
    8 novembre 2009 à 21 h 54 min

    Thank you a lot Loun for your commentary… This is edifying… How can one to construct a vaccination campaign of so big extent, from vaccines, of which the manufacturers know unofficially the secondary effects engrave? … From which the achievement of their judicial immunity… Where are therefore all the confirmed scientists in this domain, who know the risks of this vaccination, that will not vaccinate themselves and that doesn’t share these information? … On the subject of the Guillain Barre Syndrome that Loun quotes in her commentary, here a link that about it speaks in a manner detailed… Guillain-Barre and vaccination http://whale.to/vaccines/gbs.htm… to meditate…=Merci beaucoup Loun pour ton commentaire… C’est édifiant… Comment peut-on construire une campagne de vaccination de si grande ampleur, à partir de vaccins, dont les fabricants connaissent officieusement les effets secondaires graves?… d’où l’obtention de leur immunité judiciaire…Où sont donc tous les scientifiques confirmés dans ce domaine, qui connaissent les risques de cette vaccination, qui ne se vaccineront pas et qui ne partagent pas cette information?…Au sujet du Syndrome de Guillain Barré que Loun cite dans son commentaire, voici un lien qui en parle de façon détaillée… Lien du vaccin de la grippe porcine avec une maladie des nerfs meurtrière par Spread The Truthhttp://www.spreadthetruth.fr/wordpress27/?p=2576… à méditer…

  3. Valerie
    9 novembre 2009 à 20 h 21 min

    To the question of Erwan on another post: is this a dangerous vaccin? … Here a detailed explanation that I tried to render understandable to all without using habitual gibberishes… To say that a vaccine is DANGEROUS, it’s necessary to have realized, as for all chemical and other substances, an analysis in toxicology, that can last several years even to decades, that implies animal experimentation, on a large scale… where the effect-dose according to the time is analyzed… but equally according to many other parameters (the age, the hereditary land, the geographic zone, the historic…).After which, results are returned… The following step consist in to analyze these results according to the profit-risk, but equally according to other parameters, such as epidemiological parameters… according to that the risks are judged not admissible, admissible or acceptable, this chemical substance receives:* a placement refusal on the market, * an obligation to deepen the analyses in toxicology and/or in epidemiology, * or a placement authorization on the market… And there again, if it there placement authorization on the market, this maybe according to certain conditions, as the evaluation of this substance on human guinea pigs, generally in hospital environment and on targeted populations…If an analysis in toxicology and in epidemiology had been realized on the risk to contract the flu by the virus A/H1N1 and on this vaccine, then we are in a position to say if this vaccine is dangerous or not and for which reason… But to the say of certain confirmed Scientists, it proves itself that these works weren’t realized on the flues… all the flues… what wants to say that we have no decline facing these flu viruses… and this is maybe there that lives the danger, the one of the ignorance…It doesn’t exist currently in pharmacology any substance without secondary effects… and the secondary effects are always superior intensity to the profit demand, from which the importance to ask itself questions before the administration of all substances…In this vaccination campaign, several zones of shadows oblige us to reject adamantly this vaccination, which that it be: 1) The pharmaceutical industries obtain the judicial immunity… Why? … 2) Recognized very toxic additives are added for the vaccination in mass… 3) Vaccines without additives exist for a targeted population; 4) Media that announce figures of pandemic to variable stupid rates… 5) Confirmed scientists that warn… 6) Leaders that would wish to impose…

  4. Gandalf
    9 novembre 2009 à 20 h 44 min

    j’ai tendance à croire encore dans les vertus républicaines de la démocratie valérietes arguments que je les ai déjà vus sur d’autres blogs et reçu de multiples explications semblables de contacts impliqués par ce sujetl’information écrite et télévisuelle n’en pipe mot,je crois à la liberté de la presse,on ne peut la nierpour médias à large spectre j’imagine qu’il y a quelque chose comme cas de force majeure à ne pas aborder du tout cet aspectqui croire? franchement j’ai tendance a penser que le risque reste minime,mais j’avoue que je ne me ferait sans doute pas vacciner,c’est a cause des antis des blogs j’espère que tu est sure de toi(smile)tu n’aurais pas un lien vers un article de presse nationale par hasardles journalistes sont des gens comme les autres,pourquoi se tairaient-ils?

  5. Pat
    9 novembre 2009 à 20 h 54 min

    Valerie,Of course vaccines are dangerous and have side effects – even death. But, the alternative of no vaccinations is to return to a time when the world was ravaged by disease. Have a look at history – at the death rates before vaccination. That said, there is no point getting vaccinations for diseases that are easily survivable. But H1N1 is dangerous for some groups of people. I will have a look at the alternative risks when the vaccine becomes available in New Zealand. If H1N1 is killing off fit young children then I will get my children vaccinated.Thanks for doing the research and putting the post up – it is good to talk about these things.

  6. .
    10 novembre 2009 à 6 h 47 min

    Good morning Val.. This vaccine has been rushed out in a panic and I dont beleive its safe, I dont want rubbish injected into me, so dont think I will have it. so far there has been NO bad reactions "reported" but I wonder what the future will say… they say one thing now then years down the line something different.

  7. Valerie
    10 novembre 2009 à 20 h 53 min

    = French VersionEn fonction de vos commentaires, et je vous en remercie beaucoup Erwan, Pat et Summer, j’ai ajouté d’autres liens à ce billet… pour permettre à chacun d’entre nous de construire notre décision rationnellement et le plus objectivement possible…J’ai volontairement ajouté des liens pour la vaccination, des liens historiques et scientifiques ainsi que des liens contre cette campagne de vaccination… et ce, sur les deux billets, en français et en anglais.Comme tu le soulignes Pat, en tant que parents, tu as une énorme responsabilité, celle de faire le choix le plus humain pour tes enfants, le choix de ne pas te tromper dans ta décision de faire vacciner ou pas tes enfants… N’ayant pas d’enfant, je n’avais pas pensé à cet impact psychologique de prise de décision des parents, celui d’avoir entre ses mains, la vie de ses enfants…* Oui les campagnes de vaccination dans le passé ont sauvé des millions de vies et en sauvent encore;* Oui, il y a toujours un facteur risque à se faire vacciner;* Oui, sans vaccins, c’est retourner dans le passé, où les maladies ravageaient le monde… Je suis entièrement d’accord avec toi et c’est la raison pour laquelle j’ai ajouté des liens sur l’histoire de la vaccination…En choisissant de partager ce billet, j’avais choisi d’informer chacun d’entre vous… J’ai essayé d’être la plus objective possible, en m’appuyant sur un comportement critique, celui qu’on nous demande d’avoir à l’université, lors de chaque analyse, de chaque démonstration, de chaque présentation… Et ce vaccin, ou plutôt tous ces différents vaccins de la grippe Porcine ou Mexicaine ou A/H1N1 ???… n’ont pas suivi les procédés habituels lors de la production de vaccins jusqu’à leur mise sur le marché… Erwan, personnellement, je commence à avoir de gros doutes dans ce que tu appelles "les vertus républicaines de la démocratie" si l’on regroupe les comportements des politiques depuis plusieurs mois… Un comportement isolé ne permet pas de nourrir le doute, mais depuis plusieurs mois, ce sont des comportements répétés de politiques qui dénigrent leurs citoyens dans une crise économico-sociale parfois dramatique… Et "il était une fois un vaccin ou plutôt une pandémie anorexiquement aigüe…" qui réveilla "ces vertus républicaines de la démocratie" en les humanisant presque trop au point de commander 92 millions de doses pour la France, au prix d’ajouter à la ruine de la sécurité sociale un déficit supplémentaire de plus de 800 millions d’euros… sans même se concerter auprès des citoyens français…C’est aberrant… mais je n’ai pas envie de m’étendre sur le plan politique, car tous les citoyens français qui avaient choisi de ne pas voter aux présidentielles et aux européennes en sont responsables…Erwan, tu te poses la question: qui croire?… J’ai moi-même des doutes… et c’est la raison pour laquelle je mets en garde, à mon tour, contre cette campagne de vaccination qui s’est construite à l’encontre des fondements scientifiques… Il s’agit ici de vaccination et non pas de politique… Et vu la tournure politico-financière qu’a pris cette campagne de vaccination, je ne crois absolument pas en ce vaccin… Mais attention, là, je donne mon opinion personnelle mais je ne souhaite surtout pas la partager… Pourquoi?… * Parce que je ne suis sûre de rien…* Parce que chacun est LIBRE de penser, d’analyser, de décider et d’agir par lui-même… Mais en L’ABSENCE d’information, il est très important que des personnes à travers le monde, qui en connaissent un minimum sur le milieu scientifique partagent des informations utiles, des doutes scientifiques pour permettre à chaque être humain à travers le monde de construire son propre jugement * quant à cette campagne de vaccination… * quant à la validité et l’efficacité de ce vaccin… * quant au devenir de leurs futures générations… L’humanité entière est en droit de demander des explications scientifiquement objectives et surtout contradictoires d’Hommes de Sciences non impliqués de quelques bords que ce soit par cette campagne de vaccination…Mais le constat est que très peu d’Hommes de Science confirmés partagent l’information avec l’HUMANITE… alors qu’il est très probable que bien nombreux sont les scientifiques à travers le Monde qui auraient une explication rationnelle pour contre-indiquer cette campagne de vaccination… c’est ce qui définit "les comportements lâches"…Au sujet des médias:Oui les journalistes sont bien des humains, mais très peu ont l’Honnêteté de construire une actualité sans censure… Au prix de la censure et de la propagande médiatique, personnellement, je ne tremperais pas dans ce milieu qui nourrit le mensonge, les psychoses, la PROPAGANDE… sans oublier la peur… Mais heureusement, il existe encore de vrais journalistes, ceux qui informent sans déformer… Même si je me répète encore, n’oubliez pas de vous poser des questions…Dans cette campagne de vaccination, plusieurs zones d’ombres nous obligent à rejeter catégoriquement cette vaccination, quelle qu’elle soit:1) les industries pharmaceutiques ont obtenu l’immunité judiciaire… Pourquoi?…2) des adjuvants reconnus très toxiques sont ajoutés pour la vaccination en masse…3) des vaccins sans adjuvants existent pour une population ciblée;4) des médias qui annoncent des chiffres de pandémie à taux variablement stupides…5) des scientifiques confirmés qui mettent en garde…6) des dirigeants qui souhaiteraient imposer…Très Bonne et Merveilleuse Soirée à tous et à Bientôt!!!…

  8. Valerie
    10 novembre 2009 à 20 h 58 min

    Hi Erwan, Pat, Summer and to all,According to your commentaries, and I thank a lot Erwan, Pat and Summer, I added other links to this ticket… to allow each of us to construct our rationally decision and the most more objectively possible… I voluntarily added links for vaccination, historic and scientific links as well as links against this vaccination campaign… and that on the tow posts, in French and in English.As you write it Pat, as parents, you have a huge responsibility, the one to make the more human choice for your children, the choice to decide to do to vaccinate or not your children… No having any child, I hadn’t thought about this psychological impact of take decision of the parents, the one to have between its hands, the life of its children… * Yes the vaccination campaign in the past saved millions of lives and save again; * Yes, there is always a risks factor doing itself to vaccinate; * Yes, without vaccines, is to return in the past, where the diseases ravaged the world…I’m completely agreed with you and this is the reason I added links on the vaccination history… While choosing to share this post, I had chosen to inform each of you… I tried to be the more objectifies possible, while leaning me on a behavior criticizes, the one that one asks us to have at the university, at the time of every analysis, of every demonstration, of every presentation… And this vaccine, or rather all these different vaccines of the Pork or Mexican or A/H1N1 flu ???… didn’t follow the habitual procedures at the time of the vaccine production until their placement on the market…Erwan, personally, I begin having big doubts in what you call "the republican virtues of the democracy" if one groups together the behaviors of the political for several months… An isolated behavior allows not nourishing the doubt, but for several months, this is repeated behaviors of political ones that denigrate their citizens in an economico-sociale crisis sometimes dramatic… And "it was once a vaccine or rather an anorexicaly acute pandemic…" that awakened "these republican virtues of the democracy" while humanizing them almost too much to the point to order 92 millions of doses for France, to the price to add to the ruin of the social security an additional deficit of more than 800 million Euros… without even to plan itself with the French citizens… It’s aberrant… but I haven’t want to spread me on the political plan, for all the French citizens that had chosen not to vote to the presidential ones and to the European ones some are responsible…Erwan, you tell: that to believe?… I have myself doubts… and this is the reason I warn, to my turn, against this vaccination campaign that constructed itself in opposition to the scientific foundations… Here it’s a matter of vaccination and not of political one… And seen the turn politico-financial that has take this vaccination campaign, I absolutely don’t believe in this vaccine… But attention, there, I give my personal opinion but I don’t wish especially to share it… Why? … * Because I’m not sure anything… * Because each is FREE to think, to analyze, to decide and to act…But in THE ABSENCE of information, it’s very important that the persons through the world, that some know a minimum on the scientific environment share the useful news, scientific doubts to allow every Human being through the world to construct his own judgement * as for this vaccination campaign… * as for the validity and effectiveness of this vaccine… * as for to become of their future generations…Entire humanity has the right to ask scientifically objectifies and especially contradictory explanations of Science Men no implied of some edges that this be by this vaccination campaign… But report is that very few confirmed Men of Sciences share the information with the HUMANITY… while it’s very probable that very numerous are the scientists through the World that would have a rational explanation for contraindicate this vaccination campaign… this is what defines "the loosens behaviors" …On the subject of the media: Yes the journalists are several humans, but very little have the Honesty to construct a current event without censors… To the price of the censorship and propaganda media, personally, I wouldn’t soak in this environment that nourishes the lie, the psychoses, PROPAGANDA… without forgetting the fear… But fortunately, it exists again true journalists, those that inform without distorting…Even if I repeat again, don’t forget to ask questions:In this vaccination campaign, several zones of shadows oblige us to reject adamantly this vaccination, which that it be: 1) The pharmaceutical industries obtain the judicial immunity… Why? … 2) Recognized very toxic additives are added for the vaccination in mass… 3) Vaccines without additives exist for a targeted population; 4) Media that announce figures of pandemic to variable stupid rates… 5) Confirmed scientists that warn… 6) Leaders that would wish to impose…Have a Great and Wonderful Evening everyone, Bye-Bye and see you!!!…

  9. Happy
    12 novembre 2009 à 22 h 26 min

    Given it is a new viral form and new vaccine it seems evident there are risks and an inadequate data base to determine if H1N1 vaccinations are perfect/imperfect. However, to those who are not vaccinated and inadvertently are carriers and pass along H1N1 to babies, children or health-compromised persons, this is part of your decision re. what role you play in maintainance of public health. There are some choices that are in public health interests and not always individual stuff. Just thoughts. Thanks for assembling all info.

  10. PATRICIA ISABELLE
    13 novembre 2009 à 10 h 07 min

  11. Valerie
    16 novembre 2009 à 23 h 38 min

    Hi Happy Flower, Pati and to all,Thank you a lot Happy Flower and Pati for your commentaries and links!!!…I would want to signal that I’m not against vaccinations… I’m just against this special campaign of vaccination that I consider scientifically unfounded, on-mediate, politically been founded and doubtful… When I was in 2nd year of DUT of Biological and Biochemical Analysis, the year where we learn on the practices plan our future profession of laboratory technician, we had brought to work on the identification… of different microorganism’s stumps, among others, bacterial stumps, such as Salmonella typhimurium… In this precise case, the probability that I contract typhoid was well superior to the secondary eventual effect risks relating to vaccination… which wants to say, what I had done myself vaccinated against this bacteria… Before all medication, vaccination… we must always calculate the profit – risks, knowing that the risks (secondary effects…) are always superior to the profits… It’s therefore necessary to evaluate all actions that should aim to improve our health or to protect it…Then to all, I ask you, that a single and unique thing: before taking the decision to do you to vaccinate or not, read all what is said on the web and look at the videos relating to the vaccination campaign against the flu virus A/H1N1… If persons as Pati, warn us on the dangerousness to do itself to vaccinate, they do it for the love that they seen to the HUMANITY… Pati takes on her time to warn us… while you be in agreement or not with Pati, I ask you of well to read all the documents and to look at the videos that we share in our Windows Live spaces…I tried to be the more objectifies possible, facing this vaccination campaign… I grouped together documents in favor of vaccination, documents that contraindicate the vaccination against the flu A/H1N1… as well as more educational documents… don’t forget to ask you essential questions before deciding to vaccinate… It’s true that I repeat myself, but to the view of the propaganda extent of this vaccination campaign, I prefer to continue to inform you, from that time that I find documents, more scientific, that could help us to take the most just decision…http://cid-5b2ddab1c28fcdbd.skydrive.live.com/browse.aspx/Grippe%20-%20Flu%20Virushttp://val-gibson.spaces.live.com/?_c11_BlogPart_BlogPart=blogview&_c=BlogPart&partqs=cat%3dHealthEven if I repeat again, don’t forget to ask questions:In this vaccination campaign, several zones of shadows oblige us to reject adamantly this vaccination, which that it be: 1) The pharmaceutical industries obtain the judicial immunity… Why? … 2) Recognized very toxic additives are added for the vaccination in mass… 3) Vaccines without additives exist for a targeted population; 4) Media that announce figures of pandemic to variable stupid rates… 5) Confirmed scientists that warn… 6) Leaders that would wish to impose…= en françaisJe voudrais signaler que je ne suis pas contre les vaccinations… Je suis juste contre cette campagne particulière de vaccination, que je considère infondée scientifiquement, surmédiatisée, fondée politiquement et douteuse…Lorsque j’étais en 2ème année de DUT d’Analyse Biologique et Biochimique, l’année où nous apprenons sur le plan pratique notre futur profession de technicien de laboratoire, nous étions amené à travailler sur l’identification… de différentes souches de microorganismes, entre autres, des souches bactériennes, telle que Salmonella typhimurium… Dans ce cas précis, la probabilité que je contracte la typhoïde était bien supérieure aux risques des effets secondaires éventuels relatifs à la vaccination… Ce qui veut dire, que je m’étais fait vaccinée contre cette bactérie… Avant toutes médication, vaccination… nous devons toujours calculer le bénéfice – risque, sachant que les risques (effets secondaires…) sont toujours supérieurs aux bénéfices… Il est donc nécessaire d’évaluer toutes actions qui devraient viser à améliorer notre santé ou à la protéger…Alors à tous, je vous demande, qu’une seule et unique chose : avant de prendre la décision de vous faire vacciner ou pas, lisez tout ce qui se dit sur le web et regardez les vidéos relatives à la campagne de vaccination contre le virus de la grippe A/H1N1…Si des personnes comme Pati, nous alertent sur la dangerosité de se faire vacciner, elles le font pour l’amour qu’elles vouent à l’HUMANITE… Pati prend sur son temps pour nous mettre en garde… Alors, que vous soyez d’accord ou pas avec Pati, je vous demande de bien lire tous les documents et de regarder les vidéos que nous partageons dans nos espaces…J’ai essayé d’être la plus objective possible, face à cette campagne de vaccination… J’ai regroupé des documents favorables à la vaccination, des documents qui contre-indiquent la vaccination contre la grippe A/H1N1… ainsi que des documents plus pédagogiques…N’oubliez pas de vous poser des questions essentielles avant de décider de vous faire vacciner… C’est vrai que je me répète, mais au vu de l’ampleur de la propagande de cette campagne de vaccination, je préfère continuer à vous informer, dès lors que je trouve des documents, plus scientifiques que politiques et qui pourraient nous aider à prendre la décision la plus juste… http://cid-5b2ddab1c28fcdbd.skydrive.live.com/browse.aspx/Grippe%20-%20Flu%20Virushttp://val-gibson.spaces.live.com/?_c11_BlogPart_BlogPart=blogview&_c=BlogPart&partqs=cat%3dHealthMême si je me répète encore, n’oubliez pas de vous poser des questions…Dans cette campagne de vaccination, plusieurs zones d’ombres nous obligent à rejeter catégoriquement cette vaccination, quelle qu’elle soit:1) les industries pharmaceutiques ont obtenu l’immunité judiciaire… Pourquoi?…2) des adjuvants reconnus très toxiques sont ajoutés pour la vaccination en masse…3) des vaccins sans adjuvants existent pour une population ciblée;4) des médias qui annoncent des chiffres de pandémie à taux variablement stupides…5) des scientifiques confirmés qui mettent en garde…6) des dirigeants qui souhaiteraient imposer…Have a Great, Wonderful and Sunny Week everyone, Bye-Bye and see you !!!…Très Bonne et Merveilleuse Semaine ensoleillée à tous et à Bientôt !!!…

  12. Jilly
    22 novembre 2009 à 23 h 17 min

    Thankyou so much for the beautiful pictures you have shared! I absolutely love all this great information and I am learning alot! May you be having a terrific Fall day, Jilly

  13. Valerie
    28 novembre 2009 à 20 h 12 min

    Hi Jilly and to all,Thank you a lot Jilly for your commentary…Whatever the decision that each of you will take as for to do yourselves vaccinates or not against the flu virus A H1N1, you have here sufficiently information to construct your choice and not the one of the leaders and incompetent scientists or without scruples…Even if I repeat again, don’t forget to ask questions:In this vaccination campaign, several zones of shadows oblige us to reject adamantly this vaccination, which that it be:1) The pharmaceutical industries obtain the judicial immunity… Why? …2) Recognized very toxic additives are added for the vaccination in mass…3) Vaccines without additives exist for a targeted population;4) Media that announce figures of pandemic to variable stupid rates…5) Confirmed scientists that warn…6) Leaders that would wish to impose…7) What is it really passed itself in the world for such a level of alarm?8) The leaders don’t be able at once to be unaware of to become economical and social of their population and at once to want to save them of a pseudo-pandemic…9) Why so many propaganda?10) Why lying to all us?The future will relate the continuation…Have a Great and Wonderful WeekEnd everyone, Bye-Bye and see you!!!…“Take Care”, “Paselo”…

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