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The origin of Life and the different currents of thought

Hi to all Clin d'oeil

With regard to two posts on the blog
of X-Evolutionist X-Evolutionist

Étoile The Doublethink of the Origin of Life   –  Talking
about how life began

Étoile  Dogs, wolves, and coyotes, oh my  –  Talking
about the "evolution" of one species into another

I found interesting books to
investigate before bringing my personal opinion on the subjects which she
approaches, namely:

Pensif     
The origin of the life –
Abiogenesis and the Biogenesis

Pensif     
Creationism and Darwinism

Pensif     
The speciation

In Here is
the plan:

 

Brief

I)                  
Keywords

II)               
Definitions

III)            
Abiogenesis and Biogenesis
– Where is situated the Origin of Life?

IV)            
Creationnism and/or Darwinism?

Pensif     
The Evolution of Mark Ridley

Pensif     
Preamble of Yves
Coppens

Pensif     
Biology and Structures of Henri Laborit

Pensif     
To the Peril of the
Science
of Albert Jacquard

Pensif     
Darwinism today of Emile Noël

V)               
Speciation and Systematic

VI)            
When the imagination puts
itself to the Sciences service…


 

 recovered
picture on the web

I wished to construct this small
documentary according to the employed method at the time of my preparation for
the nurse competition, in course of General Culture.

This method allows everyone to
understand the subject atmosphere to treat and the term senses that will be
used afterward.

To try to construct an
opinion close of objectivity, I nourished my inspiration of the following books
and current report of the Sciences in France:

Pensif     The Evolution of Mark Ridley – ISBN 2-902918-70-4

Pensif     Preambles of Yves Coppens – ISBN 2-7381-0936-5

Pensif     Biology and Structures of Henri Laborit – ISBN 2-07-032434-6

Pensif     To the Peril of the Science of Albert Jacquard – ISBN 2.02.008518.6

Pensif     Darwinism today of Emile Noël – ISBN 2.02.005284-9

The illustrations of this
documentary originate web, but also books below:

Atlas of
the Biology
, Günter Vogel and Hartmunt Angermann – ISBN 2-253-06451-3

The
illustrated Guide of the Ecologie
, Bernard Fischesser and
Marie-France Dupuis-Tate –
ISBN
978-2-7324-3428-5

Modern Genetic
analysis
,
Griffiths, Gelbart, Miller, Lewontin –
ISBN
2-7445-0111-5

The essential
of Cell Biology
, Alberts, Bray, Hopkin, Johnson, Lewis, Raff, Roberts, Walter – ISBN 2-257-15123-2

 

My write
being too long for to post on my blog, here is in download in a Word file…

ÉtoileÉtoileÉtoileVal – The origin of Life and the different currents of thought

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  1. Cynical
    27 septembre 2009 à 6 h 09 min

    29.8 MegaBytes!?!? This isn’t a blog post, it’s a three credit hour college course! I have downloaded it and looked it over quickly. It looks as though you have done your homework well and produced a very professional looking document. I will have to read it before commenting to avoid making a complete fool of myself. Thank you for your effort in doing this.Peace, Doc

  2. Valerie
    27 septembre 2009 à 11 h 07 min

    Hi Cynical and to all,Thank you a lot to be very interested in which I write… And thank you doubly for your opinion… That doesn’t serve to nothing to write to share, if we not receive the critic in return, who can be favorable and unfavorable to the write… This is what allows sharing our opinions and to do them to evolve…It’s only a small document… I would have wanted to bring a more detailed explanation, but I haven’t a lot of times in this moment… And the subjects of X-Evolutionist are very big subjects that one cannot study in some lines… But I tried to bring a minimum explanation… And especially I tried to bring my personal opinion that cannot please… But when one is sincere with what one writes, and then one is respectful of its personal opinions… My studies brought me several methods of work… I stagnated a lot, but that has me permit to take several options and to obtain thus several methods… Very sincerely, it lacks a lot of information in my documentary, but I have not the time to exploit them more… For example, I criticized the sense of a quotation… Logically, I would have to support my opinion, by an example that contradicts this quotation originating of a physicist… Have a Great and Wonderful Sunday everyone, Bye-Bye and see you!!!…= French versionMerci beaucoup pour t’intéresser à ce que j’écris…. Et merci doublement pour ton opinion… Cela ne sert à rien d’écrire pour partager, si nous ne recevons pas la critique en retour, qui peut être favorable et défavorable à l’écrit… C’est ce qui permet de partager ses opinions et de les faire évoluer…Ce n’est qu’un petit document… J’aurais voulu apporter une explication plus détaillée, mais je n’ai pas beaucoup de temps en ce moment… Et les sujets de X-Evolutionist sont de très grands sujets qu’on ne peut pas étudier en quelques lignes…Mais j’ai essayé d’apporter un minimum d’explication… et surtout j’ai essayé d’apporter mon opinion personnelle, qui peut ne pas plaire… Mais quand on est sincère avec ce que l’on écrit, alors on est respectueux de ses propres opinions…Mes études m’ont apporté plusieurs méthodes de travail… J’ai beaucoup stagné, mais cela m’a permis de prendre plusieurs options et d’acquérir ainsi plusieurs méthodes… Très sincèrement, il manque beaucoup d’informations dans mon documentaire, mais je n’ai pas le temps de les exploiter davantage… Par exemple, j’ai critiqué le sens d’une citation… Logiquement, j’aurais soutenir mon opinion, par un exemple qui contredise cette citation provenant d’un physicien…Très Bon et Merveilleux Dimanche à tous et à Bientôt!!!…It’s only a small document… I would have wanted to bring a more detailed explanation, but I haven’t a lot of times in this moment… And the subjects of X-Evolutionist are very big subjects that one cannot study in some lines… But I tried to bring a minimum explination.. And especially I tried to bring my personal opinion, that cannot please… But when one is sincere with what one writes, then one is respectful of its personal opinions… My studies brought me several methods of work… I stagnated a lot, but that has me permi to take several options and to obtain thus several methods… Very sincerely, It lacks a lot of information in my documentary, but I have not the time to exploit them more… For example, I criticized the sese of a quotation… Logically, I would have to support my opinion, by an example that contradicts this quotation originating of a physicist…

  3. Rich
    27 septembre 2009 à 11 h 21 min

    Val,Plan on taking a look and providing you some feedback from my point of view. Should be interesting. Thank you for sharing."Paselo"Rich

  4. Tim
    27 septembre 2009 à 11 h 36 min

    Hello. Yes, as you can see, many people have different views and beliefs about it as they do with most other things. That will always be the case. I view that as a good thing. At least we were provided with (have) the right to choose, no matter where and/or how we originated.

  5. Valerie
    27 septembre 2009 à 11 h 42 min

    Hey Rich, Timothy and to all !Thank you a lot for you to be very interested in my subject and of some to bring your opinions… And you know… lol… Good Courage for reading my post in my not perfect English Level… oups… lol… Have a Great and Wonderful Sunday everyone, Bye-Bye and see you!!!…and as Rich say… "Paselo"

  6. Here I Am
    30 septembre 2009 à 7 h 32 min

    Far too heavy a subject for me and little time for reading these days. But thank you for sharing all the imformation for those who would like to persue it.

  7. Valerie
    30 septembre 2009 à 12 h 27 min

    Hi Carrie and to all,Thank you for your commentary… You are very kind!!!…It’s true that this is a very special subject…Have a Great and Wonderful Day everyone, Bye-Bye and see you!!!…

  8. X-Evolutionist
    30 septembre 2009 à 14 h 48 min

    Hi Valerie, I feel very honored that you have linked to my two blog entries, and used them as the jumping off point for your own discussion of the topics! X

  9. Valerie
    30 septembre 2009 à 15 h 50 min

    Hi X and to all,You’re welcome X…Thank you to you to write so many things on your blog and on your website on the themes relating to the Evolution and the Creation… That can interest among others studying them, According to the studies that they realize…It lacks only a thing on your site http://www.x-evolutionist.com/ … Considering my international network… it would be very interesting to have the possibility to translate your Website, For the persons that doesn’t know English…I think that we again will need Greg… It’s necessary that he shows us how to do, because that doesn’t walk not yet for me… My texts are too long and therefore online software becomes crazy… lol… because what’s more this is written in English… oups… lol…= (French version)Merci à toi d’écrire tant de choses sur ton blog et sur ton site web sur les thèmes relatifs à l’Evolution et la Création… Cela peut intéresser entre autres les étudiants, selon les études qu’ils réalisent…Il ne manque qu’une chose sur ton site http://www.x-evolutionist.com/ … Compte tenu de mon réseau international… il serait très intéressant d’avoir la possibilité de traduire ton site, pour les personnes qui ne connaissent pas l’anglais…Je pense que nous allons encore avoir besoin de Greg… il faut qu’il nous montre comment faire, parce que ça ne marche toujours pas pour moi… Mes textes sont trop longs et donc le logiciel en ligne devient fou… lol… parce qu’en plus c’est écrit en anglais… lol…

  10. T
    2 octobre 2009 à 20 h 25 min

    I am wondering if you know or if you would like the Vladimir Megle books of Anastasia?Greetings, T

  11. Valerie
    3 octobre 2009 à 11 h 25 min

    Hi T girls and to all,…I found a presentation (in English) of this book on "Google Books"… The book seems great interesting, fascinating… For those that wish to discover the book N°1 on a series of 9 books, here the link. http://books.google.com/books?id=xXIgpMHJ4M4C&printsec=frontcover&hl=fr&source=gbs_v2_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q=&f=false Thank you a lot of to have divided this book with all us…Have a Great and Wonderful WeekEnd everyone, Bye-Bye and see you!!!…

  12. T
    3 octobre 2009 à 15 h 58 min

    Great! I think there are six books. I read them all and was enraptured with. So, who loves that kind of theme, I do recommend.Great weekend to you too,T

  13. Valerie
    4 octobre 2009 à 10 h 22 min

    Hi T girl and to all,Thank you for to bring your opinion and to recommend interesting books for the themes that the writer, Vladimir Megle, exploits… I had studied these themes in Philosophy course to the school… Then yes, these books are interesting to discover and to analyze… For the 6 or 9 books, not knowing this writer, I discovered it on several websites, among others this one. http://www.spaceoflove.com/books/books.htm Good reading to all…Have a Great and Wonderful Sunday everyone, Bye-Bye and see you!!!…

  14. T
    4 octobre 2009 à 13 h 39 min

    Hey Valerie!According to this page http://www.anastasia.ca/books.php are 9 books. I read 6. I don’t know if last 3 were already published, for sure not in my language.It’s being talked about family estate (I don’t know if I chose the right expression, maybe it’s better ecological village) more and more even here.Books also inspired me to wrote a poem Her ladybird which you can find in my space.I am glad you are interested in these themes.T

  15. Valerie
    5 octobre 2009 à 15 h 15 min

    Hey T girl and to all,Ho well… ok… I understand… About the poem, I will go to see in your space… because I love the poems… the art to write… to express something… Which I love in poetry, this is that all the expressed themes are artistic beauty (joy, sadness, beauty, ugliness, clarity, dark…)While awaiting, have a Great and Wonderful Week Everyone, Bye-Bye and see you!!!…

  16. Arctic
    8 octobre 2009 à 17 h 13 min

    it is alway useful and inspirational to get more input from others as long as the time course allows, hope i have enough time to read all those books and widen my narrow mind.the illustration is very nice. have a good evening!

  17. Valerie
    8 octobre 2009 à 21 h 27 min

    Hey Arctic and to all,Thank you a lot Arctic for your commentary… Thank you for the compliment on the presentation of my file… Yes, it’s necessary to find the time to read these books… Myself, I wanted to read more books, but it had lacked me the time… oups… And thank you arctic for the links towards the seal albums… on Flickr… This is too GREAT…Have a Great and Wonderful Evening, a Good Night, Bye-Bye and see you!!!…

  18. Horst
    8 octobre 2009 à 23 h 20 min

    I find that debating Creationizim to Evelution, is like debating Religion. Everybody has thier own opinion, and will not deviate from it.

  19. Palla-Jane
    8 octobre 2009 à 23 h 52 min

    I wish you well with your course, Valerie. I do agree with Horst though. Science was one of my favourite subjects many moons ago – now that I am a retired Nursing Sister, and with much life-experience behind me, I find that pondering on the origin of life is not so important too me as living a good and peaceful life as much as I am able. May you be successful in all you do and accomplish much! Smiles to you.

  20. ··¤ SETH
    9 octobre 2009 à 2 h 36 min

    I thought that it was about time to stop by your space and say hello and to see what you have been up too! I am glad that I came by. If we see with open eyes and we listen with open ears, it is only reasonable to conclude that we should think with an open mind. I found your postings very enlightening and extremely well written!

  21. Valerie
    10 octobre 2009 à 12 h 11 min

    Hi Horst, Palla-Jane, Seth and to all,Thank you a lot for your commentaries… I understand you, and this is exactly the interest of a such writes, the one to assert its opinions, what they be just or debatable… and of some to wait also of the various opinions… and all so just or debatable ones…What is important is to bring a demonstrative explanation, without for as much to be an absolute truth… The explanation isn’t truth that for the persons that have the same current of thought… On the other hand the demonstration can be credible for all and this is this import…In the university where I did my studies, there is a term that defined Biology, and of which I’m not totally agreed, is that "Biology, in comparison with all the other Sciences, is a Passive Science" … ouch… lol… Me, I prefer to say, what Biology isn’t an exact Science… Biology allows us to bring explanations to try to understand certain phenomena, certain cycles … … …My post leaned on some works… But it’s necessary that I had you something, what I omitted of indicate in my write… oups… : The studies condition a person in a thought current… It’s necessary that I specify you, that to the University Claude Bernard Lyon 1, an immense campus, grouping together all the specialties of the Sciences, every building carries the name of a Science Man…And therefore… it there an immense building, very long that groups together the principal specialties of Biology… and that names itself: Darwin A, Darwin B, Darwin C and Darwin D… And then there are the other smaller buildings that carry the name of other Science Men; I think, among others, to the building of Genetic one that carries the name of Mendel…Then, this Darwin building marked several years of my existence as student, which wants to say that it has conditioned my unconscious one… But to construct a more objectifies demonstration: * I should have taken decline in comparison with my thought current, * read at least 3 very different books of every current of thought, * as well as comparative critics written to different eras… * to establish reports of what is credible and of what is debatable for each of the thought currents, * and only after, bring my opinion… But that would have asked me a lot of times and I haven’t some…Thank you again everyone for your commentaries!!!…Have a Great and Wonderful WeekEnd everyone, Bye-Bye and see you!!!…= Version FrançaiseMerci beaucoup pour vos commentaires…Je vous comprends, et c’est justement l’intérêt d’un tel écrit, celui d’affirmer ses opinions, qu’elles soient justes ou discutables… et d’en attendre aussi des opinions diverses… et tout aussi justes ou discutables…Ce qui est important est d’apporter une explication démonstrative, sans pour autant être une vérité absolue… L’explication n’est vérité que pour les personnes qui ont le même courant de pensée… En revanche la démonstration peut être crédible pour tous et c’est ce qui importe…Dans l’université ou j’ai fait mes études, il y a un terme qui définie la Biologie en générale, et dont je ne suis pas totalement d’accords, est que "la Biologie, par rapport à toutes les autres Sciences, est une Science Passive"… aïe… lol…Moi, je préfère dire, que la Biologie n’est pas une Science exacte… La Biologie nous permet d’apporter des éclaircissements pour essayer de comprendre certains phénomènes, certains cycles … … …Mon écrit s’est appuyé sur quelques ouvrages… Mais il faut que je vous avoue quelque chose, que j’ai omis d’indiquer dans mon écrit… oups… :Les études conditionnent une personne dans un courant de pensée… Il faut que je vous précise, qu’à l’Université Claude Bernard Lyon 1, un immense campus, regroupant toutes les spécialités des Sciences, chaque bâtiment porte le nom d’un Homme de Science… Et donc… il y un immense bâtiment, très long qui regroupe les principales spécialités de la Biologie… et qui se nomme: Darwin A, Darwin B, Darwin C et Darwin D… Et puis il y a les autres bâtiments plus petits, qui portent le nom d’autres Homme de Science; je pense, entre autre, au bâtiment de Génétique qui porte le nom de Mendel… Alors, ce bâtiment Darwin a marqué plusieurs années de mon existence en tant qu’étudiante, ce qui veut dire qu’il a conditionné mon inconscient…Mais pour construire une démonstration plus objective: * j’aurais due prendre du recul par rapport à mon courant de pensée, * lire au moins 3 ouvrages très différents de chaque courant de pensée, * ainsi que des critiques comparatives écrites à différentes époques… * établir des constats de ce qui est crédible et de ce qui est discutable pour chacun des courants de pensée, * et seulement après, apporter mon opinion… Mais cela m’aurait demandé beaucoup de temps et je n’en ai pas… Merci encore à tous pour vos commentaires!!!…Je vous souhaite à tous un excellent et Merveilleux WeekEnd et à Bientôt !!!…

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